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Westchester Baseball Group

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History:

February 7, 2013

Recap of NYC SABR meeting and general group discussion.

January 3, 2013

General group discussion

December 6, 2012

General group discussion

November 1, 2012

Cancelled due to storm.

October 4, 2012

Cliff Blau discusses his research on team owners and the group discussed the state of umpiring and reviewed the 2012 season..

September 6, 2012

Bob Mayer showed highlights from his Peekskill Old-Timers celebration.

August 2, 2012

General group discussion.

July 12, 2012

General group discussion.

June 7, 2012

The group discussed Wins Above Replacment.

May 3, 2012

Joe DeToia and Dan Dondero regaled the group with their stories about playing minor league baseball in Peekskill and elsewhere in the 1940's.

April 5, 2012

The group debated the greatest Braves team, without reaching a consensus.

March 1, 2012

General group discussion of the coming season and the next wild-card system.

February 2, 2012

The group reviewed the SABR NYC regional and Cliff Blau discussed some recent research into grounding into double plays.

January 5,  2012

General baseball discussion by the group.

December 1, 2011

Mike Frank brought a couple of trivia quizzes from recent SABR regionals, Bob (NY) Mayer discussed some regional minor league players he has been researching, and the group discussed Allie Reynolds.

November 3, 2011

The group discussed the question: Tony LaRussa: GREAT MANAGER OR GREATEST MANAGER?

October 6, 2011

General group discussion of the season and playoffs.

September 1, 2011

Mike Frank brought some of his collection of newsletters from moved team fan clubs/historical societies.

August 4, 2011

The group reviewed the latest SABR National Convention, and Eric Weiss spoke on the 1912 Chicago City Series.

July 7, 2011

The group discussed the Philadelphia/KC/Oakland Athletics

June 2, 2011

The group held a joint meeting with the Mount Pleasant Historical Society.  Dennis Corcoran spoke about his book on Hall of Fame induction ceremonies.

May 5, 2011

Bob Mayer gave a presentation at Croton Free Library on early base ball teams in the Hudson Valley, and the Asylum team.

April 7, 2011

Eric Weiss gave a trivia quiz, and the discussion focused on the new MLB season.

March 3, 2011

Cliff Blau gave a presentation aboutt the 1900-1912 Pittsburgh Pirates.

February 3, 2011

Cliff Blau gave a nickname quiz, and the group discussed the Yankees and Mets offseason.

January 6, 2011

Cliff Blau gave a player identification quiz about players with the same name, or other similarities, and the recent broadcast of the 1960 World Series Game 7 was discussed.

December 2, 2010

Mostly a general "Hot Stove League" discussion and two-sport players.

November 4, 2010

Vince Gennaro spoke about the methodology he has devised to rank starting pitchers, and Cliff Blau finished his playing rules quiz.

October 14, 2010

Part of a playing rules quiz administered by Cliff Blau.

September 2, 2010

Recap of the SABR national convention.

August 5, 2010

The group discussed the St. Louis Cardinals.

July 1, 2010

The group held a joint meeting with the Mount Pleasant Historical Society.  The guest speaker was Robert Thompson, co-author of Baseball's Greatest Hit: The Story of Take Me Out to the Ball Game

June 3, 2010

George Sommerfeld discussed some interesting lawsuits that resulted from issues at Yankee Stadium, Bob (NY) Mayer told much about the Fleischmann family's connections to baseball, and Ken Matinale analyzed competitive balance from 1903-2009 using runs scored and allowed.

May 6, 2010

Peter Handrinos joined us to discuss his new book, The Funniest Baseball Book Ever, and gave us a sneak preview of his work-in-progress, Baseball's 99 Biggest Myths.  Bob (NY) Mayer discussed his trip to the 19th Century BB Conference in Cooperstown with some stops going and returning to do research.

April 1, 2010

Steve Steinberg was the guest speaker.  He spoke about the book he co-wrote with Lyle Spatz, 1921:The Yankees, the Giants, and the Battle for Baseball Supremacy in New York.

March 4, 2010

A discussion of the approaching season, focusing on which previously losing teams might have a winning record this year.  Bob (NY) Mayer brought the doughnuts.

February 4, 2010

Everyone gave their pick for the greatest game ever played.  Some of the choices were: Harvey Haddix' near-perfect game, game 7 of the 1960 World Series, game 1 of the 1963 World Series, game 7 of the 2003 ALCS,  game 4 of the 1947 World Series (Beven's near no-hitter), game 6 of the 1986 NLCS, and game 8 of the 1912 World Series.

January 7, 2010

The group discussed the 2010 Hall of Fame election and disclosed what one event in baseball history they wish they could have attended.

December 3, 2009

Paul Keck discussed his book, The Greatest Comeback Ever.

November 12, 2009 

The group had a joint meeting with the New York Giants Nostalgia Society.  Allan Barra, author of Clearing the Bases, was the guest speaker.

November 5, 2009

 The group went out to dinner to celebrate the Yankees' World Series victory.

October 1, 2009

Paul Plaine brought in a number of his ballpark photographs to share with us, and Ken Matinale and Vince Gennaro gave brief quizzes.

September 3, 2009

Tom Molito and Harold Friend discussed Tom's friendship with Mickey Mantle and the book he is writing on the subject.

August 6, 2009

Recap of the SABR National Convention; Eric Weiss gave a talk on Babe Ruth vs. Walter Johnson

July 9, 2009

Marty Appel spoke about his new biography: Munson, The Life and Death of a Yankee Captain.

June 4, 2009

Peter Handrinos discussed his latest book, The Truth About Ruth...and More.

May 7, 2009

The group discussed various "what-if" questions, such as what if Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams had been traded for each other and what if Tony Conigliaro hadn't been beaned by Jack Hamilton.

April 2, 2009

Eric Weiss concluded his all-time franchise teams tournament, Cliff Blau discussed his research on run scoring, and the group listened to some of final Red Sox- Yankees game from 1949.

March 5, 2009

Eric Weiss told us about his all-time franchise teams tournament he is playing in Strat-O-Matic, and the group discussed recent SABR regionals and the NY BB Giants Nostalgia Society meeting, as well as the World Baseball Classic.


February 5, 2009

Frank Musantry told us about playing ball in a local league and at a Mets fantasy camp.  John Fitzgerald took questions about his documentary film, Emerald Diamonds, and his televison series Playing for Peanuts.

January 8, 2009

Vince Gennaro told us about his experience at baseball's winter meetings, and the group discussed the Hall of Merit, an Internet-based  baseball pantheon.

December 4, 2008

The group discussed the New York/ San Francisco Giants.

November 7, 2008

Guest speaker Andrew Schiff discussed Henry Chadwick, The Father of Baseball.

October 2, 2008

The group discussed the Cincinnati Reds and other topics.

September 18, 2008

The group honored John Pardon at a dinner for his long service to the baseball research community.

September 4, 2008

The group discussed the Philadelphia Phillies and other subjects.

August 7, 2008

The group discussed and listened to baseball music.  This was followed by a round-robin on the Minnesota Twins.

July 3, 2008

We had a recap of the SABR National Convention from 4 attendees, and followed with a free-form discussion, including everyone's ideas on which playing rules to change.

June 5, 2008

The group discussed the Dodgers; Bob (NY) Mayer brought in some gloves and bats, Mike Frank showed his photo collection.

May 1, 2008

Cliff Blau spoke about the first-year player draft, and Ken Matinale led a discussion of pitcher work loads (innings and pitches thrown) through history.

April 3, 2008

Bill Ryczyk visited to speak about his 2 recent books, The Yankees in the Early 1960's and The Amazin' Mets 1962-1969.

March 6, 2008

Bob (NY) Mayer gave a talk about his research into the short-lived 1909 Eastern Association and the group discussed the Detroit Tigers.

February 7, 2008

Cliff Blau gave a presentation on Dazzy Vance's 1930 season.  Other topics discussed incluced improvements in defense over the past century, and SABR's Minor League Database.

January 3, 2008

Subjects discussed included the Mitchell Report, the writers' BBHOF balloting, and the Cleveland Indians.  Cliff Blau gave a presentation on the 1916 Giants' 17-game winning streak and 27-game unbeaten streak.

December 6, 2007

Johnny Jones discussed his brother, Grover "Deacon" Jones.

November 8, 2007

Topics included the Chicago White Sox and players for the four most recent New York teams by Ken Matinale.

October 4, 2007

The group discussed the Chicago Cubs.  Mike Frank brought in an impressive collection of photographs as well as documents from his time as a Cubs stockholder.

September 6, 2007

Mostly a general baseball discussion.

August 2, 2007

Several attendees recapped the SABR National Convention, and Bob (NY) Mayer displayed and discussed some of his glove collection.

July 5, 2007

A free-wheeling discussion of many topics, including the career of Roger Clemens.

June 7, 2007

Bob Mayer spoke about his research on early black barnstorming in Middletown, NY, entitled "The Asylum Base Ball Club and Its Great Barnstorming Rivals

May 3, 2007

Matt Silverman spoke about some of his books, including Mets Essential: Everything You Need to Know to Be a Real Fan!, and Eric Weiss and Ken Matinale shared their research into regular season series of 5 games.

April 5, 2007

Vince Gennaro spoke about his new book, Diamond Dollars: The Economics of Winning in Baseball.
Vince also spoke about his trip to spring training in Florida, as did George Sommerfeld.

March 1, 2007

The main topic of discussion was the Pittsburgh Pirates, with Cliff Blau giving a talk on Ralph Kiner's 7 Home Run Titles.  Also, Ken Matinale shared his research on batters with season battting averages of .500 or higher, and pitchers who allowed a batting average of .500 or higher.

February 1, 2007

The group had a general discussion about the Milwaukee Brewers/St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles franchise.

January 5, 2007

The group had a general discussion about the Atlanta/Boston/Milwaukee Braves.  Al Blumkin spoke about former Braves second baseman Jack Burdock, Bob (NY) Mayer brought a Hank Aaron-model bat, and Mike Frank a 1953 Milwaukee program.

December 7, 2006

General discussion including reviewing the 2007 HOF ballot.  Mike Frank showed us a tape of Happy Felton's Knothole Gang from 1956.

November 2, 2006

Author Peter Handrinos led us in some spirited discussions based on his book The Best New York Sports Agruments

October 5, 2006

Roy Oleet displayed a lot of photographs of players covering most of the 20th Century, some of which he needed help identifying.  George Sommerfeld discussed a Wall Street Journal on the biggest clutch hits in post-season history.

September 7, 2006

Gene Carney dispelled some myths about the Black Sox scandal and answered questions for an hour or more.  Roy Oleet played a record of Russ Hodges' call of the Shot Heard 'Round the World.

August 3, 2006

Cliff Blau spoke about the history of baseball in the island-nation of Taiwan.  Dennis Corcoran gave us a report on the Hall of Fame induction weekend, and Ken Matinale led a discussion about the Golden Baseball League, where all the teams are owned jointly by the league's investors.

July 7, 2006

Dennis Corcoran gave us a report on the SABR national convention and George Sommerfeld led a discussion on whether American League teams are better than their National League counterparts.

June 8, 2006

A small group discussed various topics, including recreations of games by old-time radio announcers, and recent steroid/drug revelations.

May 4, 2006

Cliff Blau gave a talk about the incidence of wild pitches and passed balls over time, including the revelation that wild pitches closely track strikeouts.  A general discussion of baseball movies followed, as well as a few television series and plays.

April 6, 2006

Various matters were batted about, including our impressions of the World Baseball Classic, Ken Matinale's research on the birth places of players through the years, Mike Frank's trip to Hot Springs, and George Sommerfeld's visit to Tucson.

March 2, 2006

Bad weather held attendance down to 7, but we had a good discussion of the upcoming first World Baseball Classic.

February 2, 2006

We finished selecting our All-Time, All-NY, All-Star Team by adding to the roster Roy Campanella, Don Mattingly, Phil Rizzuto, Gil McDougald, Joe DiMaggio, Willie Mays, Duke Snider, Lefty Gomez, Allie Reynolds, Rich Gossage, Sparky Lyle, and Mariano Rivera.  Managing the team will be John McGraw, with assistance from coaches Joe McCarthy and Joe Torre.

January 5, 2006

Several people related unusual or moving experiences they'd had as players or fans.  The rest of the meeting was taken up by a general discussion of various topics, including the upcoming HOF election.

December 1, 2005

We started picking the All-Time, All-NY, All-Star team.  We got as far as selecting the starters:
Yogi Berra, Lou Gehrig, Jackie Robinson, Derek Jeter, Graig Nettles, Mel Ott, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, and pitchers Carl Hubbell, Christy Mathewson, Tom Seaver, Whitey Ford, and Joe McGinnity.

November 3, 2005

Fran Zimniuch, author of a biography of Richie Ashburn, talked about Ashburn, and led a wide-ranging discussion about Philadelphia sports.  Vince Gennaro followed that with a presentation entitled "Is Steinbrenner Cheap".  He showed the Yankees' estimated revenues and expenses and concluded that they could afford to spend even more on their payroll.

October 6, 2005

Ken Matinale led two excellent discussions, on why Mickey Mantle hit relatively few doubles, and the best baseball players who wore each uniform number.  Cliff Blau discussed changes in the usage of pinch-hitters and pinch-runners.

September 1, 2005

The group talked about tabletop and computer simulation games they have played.  Demonstrations of Strat-O-Matic were given.

August 11, 2005

Steve Steinberg spoke about baseball in St. Louis during 1900-1925, focusing on the September 18, 1922 Browns-Yankees game, and gave a brief quiz.  Matthew Fulling showed the Dead Ball Era baseball cards he has made.  Also, several attendees gave their impressions of the SABR National Convention.

July 7, 2005

Coordinator Cliff Blau had everyone reintroduce themselves and talk a little about their baseball interests.  Then Dennis Corcoran spoke about the history of Hall of Fame induction ceremonies and shared many pictures from the ceremonies.

June 2, 2005

After some trivia questions, Frank Jazzo spoke at about Lou Gehrig's last years with the Yankees and speculated about his career if he hadn't become sick.  Mike Frank told us about his trip to some Oklahoma cemetaries.  Al Coqueran led a discussion of the effects of steroids on baseball, and showed us his sports photographs.

May 13, 2005

At a special meeting, Jerry Amernic discussed his novel, Gift of the Bambino, and talked about his campaign to make the site of Babe Ruth's first professional home run in Toronto a historic site.  The meeting was preceded by a tour of Kensico and Gates of Heaven cemeteries, led by Frank Jazzo.

May 5, 2005

Bruce Markusen read some stories from his new book, Tales from the Mets Dugout, and answered questions for about an hour on the Mets, the Hall of Fame, and other subjects.

April 7, 2005

Two authors addressed the group at the Yonkers Barnes & Noble.  Steve Borelli talked about his book How About That!: The Life of Mel Allen and played some recordings of Mel Allen calling games.  Then Cecilia Tan discussed how she came up with her choices for The 50 Greatest Yankees Games.

March 3, 2005

Filip Bondy of the New York Daily News and author of Bleeding Pinstripes was the guest.  He discussed his book about a special group of Yankees fans known as the Bleacher Creatures.

February 3, 2005

John Vorperian provided a book review as well as copies of some standard player contract clauses from various sports which deal with injuries received playing other sports.  Jim Cerny of the Newark Bears discussed his career as a reporter and sportscaster and talked about the past, present and future of independent league baseball.  The group will consider an outing to see the Bears play this coming season.

January 6, 2005

John Pardon opened the meeting with a brief discussion of some proposed team moves prior to World War II.  Then Vince Gennaro recapped the 1967 AL pennant race, the last close race prior to the leagues splitting into divisions.  He reviewed the 4-team race as it evolved over the last month of the season, complete with a graph.  Ken Matinale capped the meeting, despite technical difficulties, reviewed hit batsmen, informing us that the rate has increased since 1990, although pitchers hit other pitchers less than ever.  He also higlighted which with good control hit a lot of hitters, and vice versa.  Pedro Martinez and Don Drysdale are the two meanest pitchers since WWII.  See the data on Ken's Web site.

December 2, 2004

Eric Weiss shared with us his SABR National Convention presentation on Hall of Fame Pitching Match-ups.  Cliff Blau gave a brief trivia quiz, and several members reviewed the Southern New England SABR meeting in Greenville, RI.  John Pardon mentioned his interest in the St. Louis Browns proposed move to Los Angeles in 1942.

November 4, 2004

Guest:  Dave Buscema, author of Game of My Life: 20 Stories of Yankees
Baseball.  This was held at the Yonkers Barnes & Noble.  Mr. Buscema, who covers the Yankees for the Middletown Times Herald-Record, discussed the highlights of his book, which covers players from Yogi Berra to Mariano Rivera.

October 7, 2004

Guest-Stephen Broege, who shared with us stories of his four-year career as a pitcher in the St. Louis Cardinals' organization, including an invitation to the big league spring training camp.  John Pardon provided Stephen's complete statistics.

September 2, 2004

John Vorperian spoke about the course he taught at Concordia College, The ABC's of Sports Law.  Cliff Blau led a brief discussion of left-handed knuckleball pitchers.

August 2004

Open discussion- group talked baseball.

July 1, 2004

Ed Tassinari spoke about the course he teaches at
the SUNY-Maritime College on Sports and American Society. That was
followed by a discussion of which Hall of Famers should be deducted. Based
on a minimum 75% vote of the attendees, we removed Rick Ferrell, Chick
Hafey, Red Ruffing, Rabbit Maranville, and Hack Wilson.

June 3, 2004

The meeting was highlighted by Ken Matinale's quizzes on 20-game winners and 35-home run hitters. Mike Frank graced us with a description of the new Philadelphia ball park.

May 6, 2004

Guest: Cecil Harris, Yankee beat reporter for the Journal News from 1995-98.  He spoke about the struggles faced by the first black hockey players and
compared integration in hockey to that in baseball. He also spoke about
his years covering the Yankees for the Gannett newspapers and
answered many questions from the audience.  Mike
Frank described his trip to Kansas City and passed out brochures from the
Negro Leagues museum and Kaufman Stadium.

April 1, 2004

Cliff Blau administered a football/baseball quiz submitted by John Vorperian. The
quiz and prize (The Book of Sports Lists) was won by Eric Weiss.  George Sommerfeld spoke about tours he took of Pac Bell Park and Yankee Stadium, and Frank Jazzo discussed a couple of newspaper articles on Joe DiMaggio and opening day at the remodeled Yankee Stadium in 1976.

March 4, 2004

Joe Gulia spoke about Joe DiMaggio, whom he knew for several
years. Then Phil Lowry spoke about his research into late ending and long
(in time or innings) games. There were lively question and answer sessions
after each spoke.  Cliff Blau announced a contest to pick the division winners and wild card
teams (ultimately won by George Sommerfeld.)

February 5, 2004

George Sommerfeld gave a quotation quiz and Eric Weiss presented his
research on pitchers who hit game-winning home runs.

January 8, 2004

Clifford Blau assumed the role of group moderator.  Paul Keck spoke about his unpublished manuscript, a diary of the 1978 Yankees which he kept as a teenager.  There was a lively discussion about other comeback teams, and great rivalries.

December 2003

The group moved to the new Greenburgh Town Hall.  A general discussion of baseball as well as the future of the group was held.

November 2003

Guest: David Pietrusza, former President of SABR.  He discussed the subject of his new book Rothstein: The Life, Times and Murder of the Criminal Genius who Fixed the 1919 World Series.

October 2003

Guest: Paul Votano returned to talk about his new book Stand and Deliver: A History of Pinch Hitting.

September 2003

Guest: Steve Steinberg.  His topic was The Genius of Hug- Miller Huggins

July and August 2003- No meetings

June 2003

Guest: Jeff Stuart, author of Twilight Teams.  He spoke about the last year of several teams before they moved to a new city.

May 2003

Guests: Peter S. Horvitz and Joachim Horvitz, co-authors of The Big Book of Jewish Baseball.

April 2003

Guest- Brian Collins, scout for the Minnesota Twins

March 2003

Open discussion-WESTCHESTER EXPOS? The Business of Baseball and Claude Brochu’s MY TURN AT BAT: The Sad Saga of the Expos

February 2003

Guest: Rob Trucks, author of Cup of Coffee: The Very Short Careers of 18 Major League Pitchers

January 2003

The group debated the Hall of Fame elections, and held a poll.  Eddie Murray and Ryne Sandberg got at least 75% of the votes from the group.

December 2002

Clifford Blau spoke on the topic "Best and Worst Trades Ever."  He had a top ten list for each.

At a special meeting, Frank Jazzo showed video highlights of the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers.

Thursday, November 14, 2002

Though not a regular monthly meeting, a number of regulars attended Frank Jazzo's information session at the Greenburgh Library.  Former sports writer Maury Allen spoke and took a few questions; his topics included the 1961 Yankees.  Ken Matinale kicked off a discussion on whether it was possible for the Giants to stay in New York while the Dodgers left in 1958; comments ranged far and wide culminating in a discussion about Cablevision.

November 2002

Guest: David Siroty, author of Hit Men: Biggio, Vaughn, Valentin, Robinson.  He enlightened the group about a great Seton Hall baseball team which featured three future Major Leaguers, and the team's biggest star, who didn't make it in the pros.

October 2002

Guest: Susan Winthroup, who discussed the Women's Baseball League.  The group also talked about the 2002 MVP voting.

September 2002

Guest: Fred Bengis, Yankees bat boy from 1961-63.  He discussed his memories of the times and players.

August 2002

The group attended a Hudson Valley Renegades game, seeing them take on the Brooklyn Cyclones.

July 2002-No meeting

June 2002

Guest: Paul Votano.  He shared highlights of his book Late and Close, a history of relief pitching.

May 2002

Guests: Glenn Stout, Max Frazee, Jacob Ruppert IV.  Stout, Frazee (grandson of Harry Frazee), and Tony Morante discussed the sale of Babe Ruth by the Red Sox to the Yankees.  Historic meeting of Frazee and Ruppert (grandnephew of former Yankee owner.)

April 2002

Guest: Duke Goldman, whose topic was "Indian" Bob Johnson.

March 2002

Guest: Jim Reisler, who spoke about New York City baseball landmarks.

February 2002

Guest: Ralph Wimbish, co-author of Elston and Me, talked about Elston Howard.  This was the first meeting at the Yonkers Barnes & Noble.

January 2002

Guest: Charles DeSimone discussed "Art and Baseball".  He displayed several of his own paintings.  Coach Donovan Mitchell spoke about the Brooklyn Cyclones.


Ken Matinale moved away from the area, and John Vorperian took his role as group moderator.

Thursday, June 7, 2001

Barbara Davis of the Hudson River Museum spoke about Lou Gehrig with emphasis on his connection to Westchester.  June marks 60 years since his death.

Doron "Duke" Goldman was scheduled but couldn't attend.  He appeared in April 2002.

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Thursday, May 3, 2001

Red Sox Fan Handbook compiled by Leigh Grossman

"..whether you're a longtime red sox fan or have just discovered the particular brand of stoic suffering that defines the red sox nation, this is an essential reference book...brings the reader up to speed on everything he/she needs to know about New England's favorite team...book includes material on more than 330 players, quotes, the Fenway experience, Internet sites."

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Thursday, April 5, 2001 in the Greenburgh LIBRARY

Doug Lyons discussed his latest book:

"Curveballs and Screwballs" - Over 1,286 Incredible Baseball Facts, Finds, Flukes, and More!

He also administered a brutal trivia quiz.

Doug Pappas discussed forfeits since 1901.

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Thursday, March 1, 2001

Mark Alvarez, Director of Publications for the Society of American Baseball Research, was the special guest. There was a big turnout and Mark did a great job. He pointed out that he is neither an employee nor a board member. He works as a contractor and has since 1993. He was very enthusiastic in encouraging members to contact him directly. His order of preference: phone, letter, e-mail.

John Vorperian gave his review of two sports history books published by Total/SPORTS ILLUSTRATED.

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Thursday, February 1, 2001

Sam Korn spoke about the 1938 season. Joe Gulia presented his all time "Yankees in Heaven" team. Eric Weiss administered a trivia quiz.

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Thursday, January 4, 2001

Former players Sal Yvars and Jack Randall spoke. Yvars broke the news that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story that the 1951 Giants cheated by stealing signs. That story appeared on January 31, 2001. Randall spoke about his movement through the minor leagues, finally making it to the majors but not playing because of injury.

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Thursday, December 7, 2000

John Vorperian - THE ULTIMATE LIST OF WESTCHESTER BALLPLAYERS. A Compiled roster of all born in the County who made it to THE SHOW. Also, pros who were suddenly and finally tagged out (i.e. died) within Westchester.

Bob Greiner - "Has the Game Changed??? Have the Players Changed???: Insights from the Dugout." Note - Baseball Head Coach Robert Greiner recently managed Concordia College (NY) to two (2) consecutive New York Intercollegiate Athletic Conference titles. His teams routinely journey to NCAA Regionals. Under his piloting the Clippers have winning marks. His scouting/recruitment ability is renowned. Bird dogs make the trip to Bronxville and can be found along the chainlink fence at Rose Avenue on game day. The last MLB draft confirms Greiner's talent as the Detroit Tigers selected Concordia Senior Mark Moccia (Yonkers/Infielder).

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Thursday, November 9, 2000

Carroll Zahn - "Net bases per out --- an accurate offensive productivity measure"

George Sommerfeld - "So you think you know the rules" - inspired by two plays in Game One of the World Series.

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Thursday, September 14, 2000

Steve Nadel - Pitchers with 15 wins in consecutive seasons. Greg Maddux was featured. Steve also spoke about teams that had at least a .667 winning percentage.

Michael Mavrogiannis - spoke about minor league ball parks he had recently visited.

Eric Weiss - "An Eye for an Eye: Retaliation in Major League Baseball" - Do pitchers who hit a lot of batters tend to get hit a lot themselves? Inspired by Clemens hitting Piazza. MUCH discussion followed.

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Thursday, August 10, 2000 - SABR was founded on this date in 1971; our own John Pardon was a proud participant and spoke about it briefly at our meeting.

Doug Pappas - reprised his award winning presentation at the recent SABR national on ejections. Doug first tried out his material at the January SABR meting in Westchester. He was lively and entertaining.

Cliff Blau - discussed Retrosheet, computerized play by play data. Amazingly, nobody in the audience had ever used the data. Cliff included examples of how the game had changed. For example, 100 years ago there were few double plays and few force outs. Check out Retrosheet at retrosheet.org and consider volunteering.

Tapes of activities from the national in Florida have been provided to us by Evelyn Begley. They were loaned to various attendees.

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Thursday, July 6, 2000

Bob Golon: 1910 - The First Subway Series

"After a decade of bad blood between John McGraw's New York Giants and the upstart New York Yankees, the two teams finally agreed to meet in a best-of-seven, post-season series. But this was not your typical exhibition series. It was sanctioned by the National Commission, the then ruling body of Major League Baseball. Business managers were appointed and regular umpires assigned. There would be winning and losing shares for the players, and they fought for the wins accordingly. It was billed as the "Championship of Manhattan," drawing large, enthusiastic crowds of partisan fans. 1910 was the first ever Subway Series and would set the stage for the many that followed."

Bob's written version of this event appeared on YankeesXtreme.com on June 9, 10 and 11, to coincide with the Yankees / Mets weekend series.

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June 1, 2000

General discussion led by Ken Shouler of Total Baseball:

Ken Griffey, Jr. is overrated

or the "All-Overrated Team"

Mike Frank briefly discussed his recent visits to new parks in Houston and Detroit.

Tony Morante mentioned a book on the evolution of the box score by JULES TYGIEL, PROFESSOR OF HISTORY, SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY. Tony also brought Yankee key rings which were distributed.

Ken Shouler distributed material to augment his comments. Here's his list of most overrated.

1B - Ernie Banks, runnerup - Rod Carew
2B - None, although some suggested Ryne Sandberg and Bobby Grich
3B - Brooks Robinson
SS - Luis Aparicio
C - None. Someone mentioned Roy Campanella and there was some discussion.
LF - Lou Brock.
CF - Ken Griffey, Jr.
RF - Roberto Clemente
P - Nolan Ryan

Yours truly, Ken Matinale, tried to liven things up with the following.

LF - Billy Williams. No kidding. I then went after big game, which was the overall objective: Ted Williams. He's not the best hitter ever. Babe Ruth is with Lou Gehrig likely second. No one thought that the Babe was overrated.
CF - Duke Snider. No kidding. I presented thoughts on Joe DiMaggio which were developed by another SABR member. The Yankees winning percentage was the same with and without Joe D. in the lineup and the Yankees allowed the same number of runs per game with and without Joe D. in center field. That got things going.
RF - Hank Aaron. Since DiMaggio's death, some responsible people, including Dave Anderson, have been getting on the bandwagon stating that Aaron is the greatest living player. No way! That honor goes to Willie Mays.
P - Sandy Koufax. His success coincided with a change of ball parks and the rule change enlarging the strike zone. Eric Weiss emphasized that Koufax had only four great seasons, not six, as is commonly stated.

The meeting broke up about 9:15 PM but some of us were still there going at various topics for another two hours. _________________________________________________________

There was no meeting in May because the Greenburgh Town Hall was being used by the Town of Greenburgh.
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April 6, 2000

The April meeting crowd swelled to about 30, some of whom wandered in from another baseball meeting at the nearby library.

Michael Mavrogiannis presented 10 trivia questions on players who played for both the Yankees and Mets.

Formal presentations followed.

John Pardon - Thoughts and recollections on his friend, Sparky Anderson, who was recently elected to the Hall of Fame. John mentioned a quiet thoughtful gesture from Sparky who sent John an inscribed copy of Sparky’s book even though the two had not corresponded for some time other than exchanging Christmas cards.

John showed slides of major league ballparks including those in New York.

George Martin - Spirited slide presentation on Jackie Jensen, 1958 AL MVP, about whom George has written a book. The book will be out in May. George is a new SABR member and not really a baseball person. He knew Jensen when the two taught at the same school and spent 14 years working on the book.

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March 2, 2000

Free-for-all discussion on the All Century Team. Ken Shouler, author of “The Real 100 Best Baseball Players of All Time … And Why!”, ignited the topic and then everyone dove in.

All Century Team Meeting in Westchester - Results

Attendance was only 14 but Ken Shouler did a masterful job in leading our discussion on the All Century Team.

Major League Baseball combined the players who were named to three published "Top 100" lists: "The Sporting News," "Total Baseball," and "The Real 100 Best Baseball Players of All Time ... And Why!" by Ken Shouler.

Ken Shouler distributed a list of the top 100 from which fans selected the top 25. Ken Shouler was a member of the panel that got to add five additional players (*) to the 25 which resulted in the list of 30. The list of 100 showed the votes that each player got and the players were listed in vote order by position.

Comments and questions were thoughtful and focused. We moved through each position and examined various options. Here is a pretty good summary of our thoughts.

Catchers

Rank Player Votes
1. Johnny Bench 1,010,403
2. Yogi Berra 704,208

We agreed.

First Basemen
Rank Player Votes
1. Lou Gehrig 1,207,992
2. Mark McGwire 517,992

We agreed. Doug Pappas mentioned that only two years ago McGwire would never have beaten Jimmy Foxx (3).

Second Basemen
Rank Player Votes
1. Jackie Robinson 788,116
2. Rogers Hornsby 630,761

We had Hornsby as the overwhelming favorite. Second place was split between Lajoie and Eddie Collins.

Shortstop
Rank Player Votes
1. Cal Ripken Jr. 669,033
2. Ernie Banks 598,168
Honus Wagner (4)*

We had Wagner as the overwhelming favorite with Ripken second.

Third Basemen
Rank Player Votes
1. Mike Schmidt 855,654
2. Brooks Robinson 761,700

Schmidt of course. Second was split between Eddie Mathews and George Brett.

Outfielders
Rank Player Votes
1. Babe Ruth 1,158,044
2. Hank Aaron 1,156,782
3. Ted Williams 1,125,583
4. Willie Mays 1,115,896
5. Joe DiMaggio 1,054,423
6. Mickey Mantle 988,163
7. Ty Cobb 777,056
8. Ken Griffey Jr. 645,389
9. Pete Rose 629,742
Stan Musial (11)*

Griffey and Rose were dropped. Frank Robinson (16th among outfielders) was the most overlooked and should be added as should Barry Bonds.

Pitchers
Rank Player Votes
1. Nolan Ryan 992,040
2. Sandy Koufax 970,434
3. Cy Young 867,523
4. Roger Clemens 601,244
5. Bob Gibson 582,031
6. Walter Johnson
Lefty Grove (18)*
Christy Mathewson (14)*
Warren Spahn (10)*

We felt least deserving were Ryan, Koufax, Gibson and Young. Most overlooked was Lefty Grove (18th). Seaver (11) and Maddux (7) were most likely to be added.

That's it. By the way, only three of us had voted in the fans poll. Not a good showing.

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February 3, 2000

Ken Matinale mentioned occasions when there were multiple triple crown (batters and/or pitchers) in the same year. Joe Dunn asked where he could find data on extra inning games and got several suggestions. Joe also asked who was the only player to hit regular season homers in Yankee and Shea Stadiums, Ebbets Field and the Polo Grounds. Frank Robinson.

Unfortunately, Steve Nadel was prevented by family matters from administering his trivia questions in person. Ken Matinale filled in, complete with additional info on the answers from his database. Good job, Steve. We missed you.

Phil Goldberg was not prepared to do his presentation but Claudia Perry stepped to the plate and batted twice with her talk on the relationship between black musicians and black ballplayers as well as other topics related or not. Claudia energized the proceedings.

Ken Shouler suggested the All Century Team as our topic for March and the assemblage quickly acquiesced. We then dissolved into roaming groups discussing all sorts of stuff. Rumor has it that some lingered until 11:00 PM and emerged into the night to discover far more that the predicted dusting of snow on their vehicles.

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January 6, 2000

Good turnout of at least 25, 99% of whom have e-mail IDs. These were the presentations.

Tony Morante - Slides on the history of baseball and its equipment. Tony will present an expanded version at the Greenburgh Library in April and another at the New York regional in February. Tony displayed his knowledge and affection for the game. Tony mentioned that a slide of Yankee Stadium was taken in 1959. Not possible someone said. Brooklyn is on the scoreboard. It cannot be later than 1957. Earlier noted another. Philadelphia is on the scoreboard in the American League. Tough crowd.

Doug Pappas - Ejections. Doug is preparing this topic for presentation at the SABR national in 2000. He held court with energy, wit and style and there was plenty of audience participation.

We concluded with Phil Goldberg and Claudia Perry volunteering to speak at the next meeting and Steve Nadel to prepare ten trivia questions. We also agreed on an experimental free-for-all in March with the topic to be selected in February.

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December 1999

General getting acquainted and organizing session. Tony Morante and Doug Pappas volunteered to speak at the next meeting

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October 6, 1999

General getting acquainted and organizing session?

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May 14, 1999

Proto-Westchester group met with Danny Gardella, former NY Giants outfielder, and Father Conway, baseball chaplain in the 1970's and 1980's.

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